The NHR scheme is about tax not about visas. D7 requirements are not wavered.
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:20pm
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:31pm
aspidistra wrote on Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:20pm:
The NHR scheme is about tax not about visas. D7 requirements are not wavered.
NHR status allows one to spend less than 183 days in Portugal if they own or rent a place that is their habitual residence. I don’t make up the rules. This is the law.
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:20pm
aspidistra wrote on Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:20pm:
The NHR scheme is about tax not about visas. D7 requirements are not wavered.
Here is a useful link that expands on the NHR issue. If you thoroughly read it, you will see that one of the benefits of NHR status is that there are no minimum or maximum residency stay requirements: www.globalcitizensolutions.com
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:51pm
sailorpete wrote on Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:20pm:
Here is a useful link that expands on the NHR issue. If you thoroughly read it, you will see that one of the benefits of NHR status is that there are no minimum or maximum residency stay requirements: www.globalcitizensolutions.com
I think you’re confusing it with the golden visa
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:54pm
aspidistra wrote on Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:51pm:
I think you’re confusing it with the golden visa
Nope
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:39pm
sailorpete wrote on Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:54pm:
Nope
If you read what you have quoted about NHR in the paragraph following the details you mentioned, about how long you need to live in Portugal to be a tax resident, it tells you that about how in order to do that you have to qualify first for a visa, be it golden, D7 etc.
So, first you have to abide by the rules of the visa. The NHR is secondary to that. Numbers of days you are resident for tax purposes is not the same as the number of days you are required to be resident depending on your type of visa.
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:08pm
I really appreciate this discussion and all your comments. Before we do anything to put our D7 at risk, I will be consulting a lawyer. There is just too much at stake to rely on me reading through the rules. Thank you again for the information.
Posted: Tue Aug 1, 2023 7:52am
cconrad1234 wrote on Mon Jul 31, 2023 11:08pm:
I really appreciate this discussion and all your comments. Before we do anything to put our D7 at risk, I will be consulting a lawyer. There is just too much at stake to rely on me reading through the rules. Thank you again for the information.
Do let us know what they say please and good luck with it all
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:00pm
We got stamped when transiting through Marseille on our way back from Tunis to Faro. They spent a long time comparing my residency and passport and then still stamped me. So technically I have been stamped into Schengen zone and should be a max on 90. days, unless I come back to my resident country of Portugal. They have no way of knowing if I have left schengen, although I do keep copies of the boarding passes for the Marseille to Faro flight, just in case another border control zealot tries to question it, but I can't really see how they can.
When my daughther flew from the UK (she had spent a few days there) to Portugal to see us, she is an Italian resident and lives in Rome, she did not get stamped, simply waved through and I have heard of this in several other countries. I think France is more bullish on this than most other countries, unless it is of course the old French/English "loive/Hate" relationship coming into play.
but the point I guess I am making is that there seems to be no consistent rule being applied across the EU, so I doubt any tracking is in place.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:32pm
lindsay wrote on Sun Aug 13, 2023 2:00pm:
We got stamped when transiting through Marseille on our way back from Tunis to Faro. They spent a long time comparing my residency and passport and then still stamped me. So technically I have been stamped into Schengen zone and should be a max on 90. days, unless I come back to...
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... my resident country of Portugal. They have no way of knowing if I have left schengen, although I do keep copies of the boarding passes for the Marseille to Faro flight, just in case another border control zealot tries to question it, but I can't really see how they can.
When my daughther flew from the UK (she had spent a few days there) to Portugal to see us, she is an Italian resident and lives in Rome, she did not get stamped, simply waved through and I have heard of this in several other countries. I think France is more bullish on this than most other countries, unless it is of course the old French/English "loive/Hate" relationship coming into play.
but the point I guess I am making is that there seems to be no consistent rule being applied across the EU, so I doubt any tracking is in place.
Keep those boarding passes they will redeem you if needed we just went through it at sef good luck!
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